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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 22:38 
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Spells
  • Very Easy

  • Easy
    • Lesser Farsight
  • Somewhat Easy

  • Normal
    • Farsight
  • Somewhat Difficult
    • Revelation
    • Blizzard
    • Anarchy
  • Difficult
    • Flame Burst
    • Land Warp
  • Very Difficult
    • Abrasion
    • Cripple
  • Extremely Difficult

Spy Operations
  • Very Easy
    • Spy on Military
    • Spy on Land
  • Easy
    • Spy on Heroes
  • Somewhat Easy
    • Spy on Buildings
    • Spy on Improvements
    • Buy Newspaper
    • Spy on Quest party
    • Spy on Economy
  • Normal

  • Somewhat Difficult
    • Steal Lumber
    • Steal Ore
    • Steal Food
    • Steal Magic Dust
  • Difficult
    • Kidnap
  • Very Difficult
    • Sabotage Gold Mines
  • Extremely Difficult
    • Kill Workers In Training


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 22:57 
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Is this based on anything?

I'm asking because I wonder, not because I question the legitimacy of your findings.

Except I find sob extraordinarily hard, sometimes :D


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 06:20 
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Yes, it's based on something. They are in rank from easiest to hardest, but that's about it. I'll re rank them so that it's easier to tell how much more difficult one spell is from another. I'll also set the normal difficulty as Farsight / Spy on Econ


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 07:57 
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I think he meant based on something as in code.

I do agree for the most part though. It's helpful anyway

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 08:29 
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Updated 1st post to be more accurate of what the difficulty level is.

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Except I find sob extraordinarily hard, sometimes :D

This would be an error in my naming. If I named SoM Normal, and SoB Hard, it might make more sense for you. I'm willing to rename the ranks if you provide an appropriate naming system.

With this ranking system, jumping up one rank isn't just a little bit harder, it's much harder. SoB is 2 ranks higher than SoM.

Spells/spy operations in the same rank are roughly equal in difficulty.

This version still has errors in it. . .(done on purpose)
SoE & SoQP should actually be in the somewhat easy category. . . but I wanted to show that they are slightly more difficult than SoB. . .

edit: I'll move them back to the somewhat easy category, but note that those two are slightly harder than the three spy operations above them.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 08:56 
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Is this something you KNOW fergy?

I mean, i think you are probably right on most of it at least, but did you get access to code to actually check it or what? Empirical studies of 1k+ attempts?

TBH i wouldnt have guessed killing workers in training would be that difficult.. Not so sure about the spells either..


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:01 
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Flameburst is easier than Blizzarchy.

This is very cool! I wish it were based on the actual coding, though. =)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:37 
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Yeah, i think flameburst is easier too. My feeling is even that revelation is harder than flameburst..


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 16:39 
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This information was very accurate a few years ago, but I'm unsure of how much the game has changed since this list was compiled. (FB could be easier than Blizzard/anarchy now. . . but it used to be much harder to cast (compared to blizz/archy), and probably still is).

Spell difficulty can be changed for each race. FW used to have an easier time casting FB than all other races. I'm unsure if there are any other spells that are easier/harder to cast based on race.

The list still has some "errors" in it. . . but really it will be on no concern to you unless you figure out how much more difficult the spells/ops are by going up another rank. This list should be good enough to give you an idea if you can succeed with ops from a different rank.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 20:33 
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Meh, I'll stop beating around the bush.
quaffle wrote:
This is very cool! I wish it were based on the actual coding, though. =)
It is.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 02:44 
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Enlighten me, please.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 08:09 
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If you want more accurate information, request that Advanced Race Information be implemented. I'm unwilling to post anything more accurate than I did in post 1.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 14:16 
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It would be so nice to get into this! Get exact representations of formulae etc.

Probably wouldn't change my style of play a lot, but it would certainly be awesome to see!


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