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whyowhy
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 23:42 |
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Keqrops, the Centaur Slayer 2010-10-21 06:12:00 CEST
out for the 3rd straight time immediately after his service ended. wow, never seen that before ever with ANY hero. i guess the zon must have some pull with admin.
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Lord Legorii
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 23:43 |
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Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 15:51 Posts: 513 Location: Realm 75
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Yeah, they have an alliance. It's whatever.
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Kalle
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 23:51 |
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whyowhy wrote: Keqrops, the Centaur Slayer 2010-10-21 06:12:00 CEST
out for the 3rd straight time immediately after his service ended. wow, never seen that before ever with ANY hero. i guess the zon must have some pull with admin. You and your constant disrespect for me and zip. Why don't you go with any of the other board multies or friends or whatever? fritzdacat, maxplayer, joeavrage, noobster11, Greater Bunny. Many to chose from.
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 23:55 |
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Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:28 Posts: 2570 Location: The Netherlands
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Kalle wrote: whyowhy wrote: Keqrops, the Centaur Slayer 2010-10-21 06:12:00 CEST
out for the 3rd straight time immediately after his service ended. wow, never seen that before ever with ANY hero. i guess the zon must have some pull with admin. You and your constant disrespect for me and zip. Why don't you go with any of the other board multies or friends or whatever? fritzdacat, maxplayer, joeavrage, noobster11, Greater Bunny. Many to chose from. Pwnd 
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MisterBarca
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 04:17 |
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Joined: Wed Jun 17, 2009 23:09 Posts: 1288
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While the original poster's tone was not nice, I do think he pointed out a serious problem that occurred this round--a problem that will also likely recur unless fixed immediately.
That is, we have an unpredictable and unfair hero availability scheme. For instance, this round the anti-Dwarf hero was available for 20 days straight, whereas the anti-Human hero was not available a single time. This is simply too arbitrary; and I dare say that such arbitrariness could be round-breaking when it comes to anti-racial heroes, as 10 percent bonus is absolutely huge. For instance, I know that a certain Dwarf who was initially a contender was forced to sit for two weeks due to this baffling scheme.
Once again: Why not make all the heroes available at the same time and continuously? It would prevent this kind of unfairness. Further, the greater number of available heroes would also enable more kingdoms than merely the top-top kingdoms to have a crack at them without hurting themselves. In fact, we did this one round, and it worked fine enough--or so I thought.
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quaffle
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 05:36 |
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I actually wanted to say something about this. Because it is very unlucky to all Dwarf players that this hero has constantly been getting released. And since the original post is being aimed at ME, be fair and also realize the Amazon hero has been available since the start also.
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MisterBarca
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 06:01 |
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quaffle wrote: I actually wanted to say something about this. Because it is very unlucky to all Dwarf players that this hero has constantly been getting released. And since the original post is being aimed at ME, be fair and also realize the Amazon hero has been available since the start also. I could be wrong, but I believe the Amazon hero missed one rotation; so he's been available 3 times, whereas the Dwarf hero has been available 4 times. And some anti-racial heroes (e.g. Human) has yet to be released. This is seriously broken.
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080
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 06:07 |
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I believe its random. for those of you confused by the concept... ran·dom [ran-duhm] –adjective 1. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern:
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-dB
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 06:14 |
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080 wrote: I believe its random. for those of you confused by the concept... ran·dom [ran-duhm] –adjective 1. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: This. If you are saying it's not random, then you are implying the administrators have fixed it, which is absurd. And Barca, while that certain Dwarf had to sit for a while, there was a time period where he could have hit, but he didn't.
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MisterBarca
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 06:46 |
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-dB wrote: 080 wrote: I believe its random. for those of you confused by the concept... ran·dom [ran-duhm] –adjective 1. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: This. If you are saying it's not random, then you are implying the administrators have fixed it, which is absurd. And Barca, while that certain Dwarf had to sit for a while, there was a time period where he could have hit, but he didn't. 1. I realize it's "random," and that's what's unfair about it. 10 percent extra OP against one particular race is not something that ought to be randomized. 2. I agree that a certain Dwarf should have tried to grow earlier, regardless of the threat from Keqrops. But that's a whole different can of worms, and this is not the best time nor thread to discuss that particular issue 
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MoD
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 13:12 |
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Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 14:44 Posts: 2185 Location: The Netherlands
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Nothing is random. Atleast, not what is made by mankind!
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-dB
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 13:49 |
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Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:40 Posts: 413 Location: Down Under
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I think the random aspect of it is good as you never really know if it's coming up or not, and when it does you have to react to it which may/may not change your plans.
It's just like real life, you don't always know what's coming up.
More interesting.
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Dante
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 13:52 |
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-dB wrote: I think the random aspect of it is good as you never really know if it's coming up or not, and when it does you have to react to it which may/may not change your plans.
It's just like real life, you don't always know what's coming up.
More interesting. Agreed. It is fairly uncommon for a situation like the one we had this round to come up. I dont think i've ever seen it before. Sure it was a bit too much this round, but it isnt likely to happen again anytime soon. I like the "randomness". If the risk for something like this is too much then i guess some limitation to the randomness could be introduced ("Same hero cannot reappear more than twice in a row") but it doesnt feel all that important to me.
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-dB
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 14:17 |
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Dante wrote: If the risk for something like this is too much then i guess some limitation to the randomness could be introduced ("Same hero cannot reappear more than twice in a row") but it doesnt feel all that important to me.
Yeah I like this idea. You could also have it that a hero can appear only once or twice in a round. I also think it's unfair to focus on the Anti-Dwarf hero being always available. Quite a few other heroes have also appeared back to back or several times. Deadly Vipers Squad; Kujume, Master of the Circus; Bob the Hobo; Drak, War Master; Sexist Beast; Last round, I remember Gooby being available twice too and we were somewhat scared as we didn't want Immor to get him again. It's part of the game.
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