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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 19:30 
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I think you should find a time in mafia that i haven't acted scummy.

I don't think its so much my play style but my personality tbh. I'm very open about everything and sometimes the truth is much more scummy than the lies. The thing that gets me most is that you don't seem to be thinking logically on some of the moves that have been made.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 19:32 
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BUt if that turns out to be the case, Cobra, then you have no one to blame but yourself imo. Cuz you have played uber sketchy. I mean, I could start listing all the scum shit you have done all game


Also this is probably one of the funniest things i've heard from you. It is my fault that it's 2vs.2 and you are sided with the mafia? Its my fault that you don't know my personality or way of playing? It's my fault that me and wonderland both know who mafia and that you are too blind to see it? I think your looking for a scapegoat =P

Edit: if ID can triple post then i can double =)

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 20:01 
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Location: Wrapping Roy Orbison in clingfilm. Yes, I know he's dead. So what?
Wonderland made the choice he thought was right, though I beg to differ. There has been a great deal of discussion since then. I would like to see his response to the latest series of posts.

Anyway, if you really are a citizen, it IS your fault. It is your job as a citizen to not be suspicious. It is your goal as a mafia to do the same, which is why as a citizen you need to be honest, logical, and complete in your ability to to avoid suspicious acts.

And my post count is currently seventh. This is an abomination and must be fixed.

As I have said, I am not mafia. Based on the circumstances, I believe that there is no way Wonderland is mafia. Knicoal's actions and my stalking leads me to believe that the probability is very high that she is not mafia. Therefore, Cobra is mafia. We lynch him and if the game continues tonight, Wonderland is free to kill me. Therefore, we win, so let's get this going.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 20:15 
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Cobra08 wrote:
I think you should find a time in mafia that i haven't acted scummy.



Sure. But acting scummy on the LAST day is fail-strat. It is not bad to act scummy during the beginning (often that helps you stay alive tbh), but there is zero reason to act scummy on the final vote day -- which you have and continue to. If you are, in fact, the citz then why are you so opposed to this vote????? You would still be winning, right????? Yet you are trying desperately to save yourself -- from what??? I know that when I am the actual citz and it is proposed that we lynch one/shoot one -- I never even give a shit which I am. There is no reason whatsoever to protest this IF you are a citz.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 21:09 
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knicoal wrote:
Cobra08 wrote:
I think you should find a time in mafia that i haven't acted scummy.



Sure. But acting scummy on the LAST day is fail-strat. It is not bad to act scummy during the beginning (often that helps you stay alive tbh), but there is zero reason to act scummy on the final vote day -- which you have and continue to. If you are, in fact, the citz then why are you so opposed to this vote????? You would still be winning, right????? Yet you are trying desperately to save yourself -- from what??? I know that when I am the actual citz and it is proposed that we lynch one/shoot one -- I never even give a shit which I am. There is no reason whatsoever to protest this IF you are a citz.


The reason i am still protesting is because i think there is a chance that you are mafia with ID, and that is the reason you are opposed to him being lynched; if the game continues after he is lynched then you know that we will kill you and win the game. so it is your only hope that you lynch me then get wonderland to kill ID at night that way you will win. So i'm perfectly fine with a tie (whether neither or both of us get killed).

If both of you are mafia then the best you can hope for is a tie if Nick doesn't switch his vote. If only one of you are mafia then you NEED this lynch in order to win. That is why i'm not down with this vote.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 21:13 
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Cobra08 wrote:
The reason i am still protesting is because i think there is a chance that you are mafia with ID.


See, that is what I am talking about. That is SO scummy. OFC there are not 2 mafs left ffs. Quaffles is not fucking retarded. DO you seriously think with 7 people he made 3 mafs???????????????????????????

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 21:30 
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Cobra08 wrote:
if the game continues after he is lynched then you know that we will kill you and win the game. so it is your only hope that you lynch me then get wonderland to kill ID at night that way you will win. So i'm perfectly fine with a tie (whether neither or both of us get killed).


This makes no sense. If we lynch ID or you it makes NO difference. The only way citz lose is if we lynch me or wondernab (the only cleared citz). And either way you flip it, I have to be citz. If ID is maf, then I can't be. If ID is not maf (then he is the legitimate cop) and he cleared me. SO here is what we have:

Scenario 1:
Lynch me. Three go into the night. Maf kills one, vigi shoots one. It is 50/50 chance. Maf kills wonder. If wonder shoots right, citz win. If wonder shoots wrong, citz lose.

Scenario 2:
Lynch Cobra. If cobra is maf, game over, citz win. If cobra is citz, three go into the night. ID and wonder exchange fire, I live. Citz win.

Scenario 3:
Lynch ID. If ID is maf, game over, citz win. If ID is citz, three go into the night. Cobra/wonder exchange fire, I live. Citz win.


The only possible way we tie is if we lynch the cit and the maf can hooker, cuz then maf hooks/kills wonder. Then the next day is me and the maf in a dead stalemate. And there is just no way to know at this point if the remaining maf can hooker -- but since ID claims stalker and cobra claims zombie -- I think the chances that either can hooker is slim (but still obviously possible).

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 21:36 
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knicoal wrote:
Cobra08 wrote:
The reason i am still protesting is because i think there is a chance that you are mafia with ID.


See, that is what I am talking about. That is SO scummy. OFC there are not 2 mafs left ffs. Quaffles is not fucking retarded. DO you seriously think with 7 people he made 3 mafs???????????????????????????


Isn't there a yakuza(?) role in EM where you can die then make a villager mafia? I'm just stating possibilities of course.

And how am i the only one that is suspect here when you are in the same boat as i am. If it isn't ID then it is obviously one of us. I am about 90% sure that ID has given out false info (whether on purpose or not) on him being the cop character of this game. I'm am fairly certain that Nick is in the same boat as me in thinking that ID is mafia.



And you are basing most of your arguements on me acting somewhat scummy which i have done throughout every single game i've ever played. Instead of thinking logically on who and why each person was killed.

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Anyway, if you really are a citizen, it IS your fault. It is your job as a citizen to not be suspicious. It is your goal as a mafia to do the same, which is why as a citizen you need to be honest, logical, and complete in your ability to to avoid suspicious acts.

Do you really think that sticking with 100% honestly is even possible while avoiding suspicion?
Being honest in a game where most people are lying and schemeing is going to get you screwed. The only games i have ever lied in are the ones i am mafia in, and i always get "you are scummy" because i stick with honesty, and often that honesty conflicts with the many other lies that are going about, and the different schemes people have running through their own heads (whether logical or otherwise).


anyways. What happens if the vote is tied?

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If ID is not maf (then he is the legitimate cop) and he cleared me. SO here is what we have:


But what if ID is not maf and got incorrect info on you?

See you are playing as though you don't need to clear yourself which still makes me suspect you. You are so comfortable and think you are 100% safe. That is a bit scummy imo =P.

Anyways it's like this:
either you change your vote or this is going to be a tie vote and who knows what quaggle is going to do. I think things work out for cits either way tbh though

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 21:45 
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Don't get yer hopes up, Cobra, there is no way we are tying today :P

In fact, it makes no difference to me who dies -- so long as it is either cobra/ID, cuz either way citz win. If wonder wants to vote ID instead of cobra, then I will change my vote to ID. I seriously don't care. And since wonder is the most clear of anyone, technically, he gets the lead vote anyway. And unless I missed it, wonder has not voted yet.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 21:48 
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Wonderland wrote:
Sorry, really busy week. This is my first time to log in 2-3 days. So, I am indeed the vigil. Night One I decided to shoot cobra. After the night was over my reply said “He was not in his house” or something along those lines. That is why I first suspected him. Mafia wouldn’t be in their house if they decided to kill. When I confronted Cobra about it he claimed to be this “Running Zombie” (look at his 2nd post). I decided this was a legit role due to the fact that Quaffle wouldn’t make it were a Vigil couldn’t kill a mafia member (I think.)

So, next I suspected Knicoal solely on the fact that MoD died and she has admitted (I think) that if she was ever mafia she would kill him first. So I put together the evidence and confronted her also via msn. Through out the beginning of the game she stated she had a role that “didn’t PM Quaffle”. So, when she claimed it seemed to make sense. Not 100% she’s clear but I’m pretty sure it’s not her. Though she did say she had the choice to be mafia or citz? IDK.

Finally, last night I killed B (Also) continuing the removal of inactive players. Yet the reply from Quaffle was odd. It says that I found him sitting on a bench and thought he was just an easy target. (I guess he was already dead).

So, that leaves ID. He claims to be this “Obsessive Stalker. Right? Well, assuming Quaffle got this role from EM the stalker is a mafia member that learns the role of one player each night. It makes sense that he would target the Cop, even though he was virtually inactive and not much of a threat otherwise. So, in my mind I am sure ID is the final member of the mafia. I doubt there would be 2 cops…


I vote to Lynch ID!


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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 22:05 
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Oh right, I forgot that he bolded.

Whatever ends this day faster.

I VOTE TO LYNCH ID.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 22:45 
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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 22:49 
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Location: Don't be a Stalker....
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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 22:52 
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Hey, as long as Cobra dies tonight, it's all cool with me. It's just pretty much a reversal of the compromise I gave, and it will still guarantee that we win, so whatever.

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 Post subject: Re: MAFIA DAY 3
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 22:59 
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And I am gonna laugh myself retarded if it turns out that ID is a citz, and then wondernab shoots me.*



*And then refuse to play another game wondernab is a member of.

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