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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 02:21 
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Hey. I'm a complete n00b to this game. I need to know how to play as Elves. I searched for elf Strategies, but they didn't make any sense. Please help me!

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Tip 1: Black text? Very bad. :evil:

Tip 2: Trying it out, then putting what you're thinking and asking for improvements is usually the best way to get an answer, people will usually decide you're too lazy to be worth helping if you haven't tried for yourself first. (I'd say they're right too)


Assuming you're going for land like majority of players you're going to be primarily devoting your land to Forest Enclaves, the elven homes. Having those filled with population, preferably as many serfs as you can get, will allow best income. It also means you have room for more military, which is always a good thing. Training shadow elves to keep your improvements high also helps income, as well as boosting offense and defense. Elves are the one race in the game for whom it is worthwhile to build more sawmills, which the elves call Woodlots.
Obviously, the elven racial spell, conservation (one of the best I'd personally say, but that's somewhat biased since my work schedule makes my availability somewhat uncertain and having my resources stick around a bit more is certainly nice) should be run at all times, except for the very beginning when your stockpiles are so small it doesn't really matter anyway.
Unless you're going to play for experience, don't make any academies or hospitals. Their effects aren't enough to balance out the reduction of income they cause compared to filling the same volume of land with homes.

Except perhaps for the beginning, you don't want to use half-elves. They're slightly better price-wise, but the space they take up (less OP/DP on each so you need more) means you have less peasants and serfs to make gold for you. Sylvan Rangers should be your primary attacking units and you can train Archers of Light for defense. Woodland Rangers are the most space efficient units the elves have, but even though the ability to train them was added, the rather terrible price-efficiency makes it a bad idea. Just let Sylvans and Archers get retrained from casualties.

Well, that's some good basic stuff to know. Experiment a little, see what you figure out. It's more fun trying it out to learn than just being told the best way at first. And just to remind you: Black text, BAD. :evil:

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i personally find it easier with elves to due relatively more archers of light than sylvs because the simple fact that the magic dust decay is dramatically lowered to conservation :)!!! but um... dont build hospitals period... it messes up everything elves have ever worked for, and also dont go woodlot crazy. i think 135 should do for the entire round.

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I havent read what Lord-o-Darkness wrote because it would mean reading too much. So ill give you a quick advice.

Never train woodland rangers.

Try to get asap Shadow Elfs, about 6k in short round to 9k long round.

Botton Feed! and if you have 2 targets with same land, atack the one with more defense. Therefore you get more conversions :)


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i say ignore all the suggestions and get a feel for the game with no specific strat first,that way youll know what everyones talking about.

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i say ignore all the suggestions and get a feel for the game with no specific strat first,that way youll know what everyones talking about.


and i say you must be very stupid :P

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hhmmmm...frankly speaking.....i'm also a noob, but from my experience, don't use any strategy, get a feel first, (don't forget your defense= build abt 200 half elves during the early part of the round)...and when your'e ready, read the srtategies.But frankly speaking, elves are not the type one would use if he likes to attack early during the new round.So, build up your forces first, then attack.About 1200 Sylvans, 1000 archers and maybe 120 Woodlands would do the trick.In my personal opinion, only train half elves early in the round, after a few days, they're pretty much useless.Therefore, after that period of time, you can use them as cannon fodder. About 450-600 usually does the trick. Invest heavily on shadow elves.And use spy ops like crazy, elves are good at that.Best of luck! :wink:

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Witch King wrote:
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i say ignore all the suggestions and get a feel for the game with no specific strat first,that way youll know what everyones talking about.


and i say you must be very stupid :P


first off,bastard. second,a noob will always be a noob if he starts out using other peoples strategies.strategies are good too get high ranking IF YOU CAN USE IT RIGHT. or using other strats to improve YOUR OWN. the game is no fun if you only use someone elses strategy. a noob should just wing it for his first round.

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PenguinElite wrote:
a noob should just wing it for his first round.

I've always believed similar regarding new players having aims. I deliberately spent my early rounds just trying to learn more about the game instead of aiming for any of the rankings (XP, Land and NW). Only this round have I decided to actually commit to a goal.

I'd say similar for strategies. A new player should try to do things as they think they should, and ask for help if their strategy is really off - that's probably the best way to get a feel for the game.

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PenguinElite wrote:
first off,bastard.


damn man, you take shit way to seriously. As I can see you don't like to be insulted, so maybe I'll insult you just for fun.

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glad someone at least understands what im saying.

smacker,your an idiot.i really dont need to say anything else.other than the fact that you seem to have taken an insult that was not meant to be harsh at all and wasnt even aimed at you.thats all.

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ill give a good elf tip... attack vampires in the night... they never have an army then.

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PenguinElite wrote:
Witch King wrote:
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i say ignore all the suggestions and get a feel for the game with no specific strat first,that way youll know what everyones talking about.


and i say you must be very stupid :P


first off,bastard. second,a noob will always be a noob if he starts out using other peoples strategies.strategies are good too get high ranking IF YOU CAN USE IT RIGHT. or using other strats to improve YOUR OWN. the game is no fun if you only use someone elses strategy. a noob should just wing it for his first round.


hehe you take stuff way too seriously i was just jokeing with you :lol: in my oppion i thank they should ask for advice on things and that was what he was doing ive been playing for a quite a long time and ive seen lots of people who quit just because they cant figure out the game and people keep telling them to wing it in stead of helping them out yes it maybe there first round but that don't mean you cant help them by giving them a general strat and telling them what buildings not to bother building or tell them not to explore during protection and other helpfull stuff like that and you say people will all ways be a noob if they use someone elses strats well then all most everyones a noob becasue about everystrats been done all ready ive helped lots of noobs out and most of them have been very thankful for the help so befor you go telling some newb just to wing it think of what you can do to help them out

sorry to turn your trend in to such a flame war JosephHolyHeart i really don't have any knowledge on elves or id help you out my self

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NyteShade wrote:
PenguinElite wrote:
a noob should just wing it for his first round.

I've always believed similar regarding new players having aims. I deliberately spent my early rounds just trying to learn more about the game instead of aiming for any of the rankings (XP, Land and NW). Only this round have I decided to actually commit to a goal.

I'd say similar for strategies. A new player should try to do things as they think they should, and ask for help if their strategy is really off - that's probably the best way to get a feel for the game.


I always commit to a goal. I'm just half-assed about it so I never reach that goal. Rather sad really.

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I prefer attacking people that have the desired land. So for Elves it's usually attacking other Elves. Or, if you're already heavy on imps and want alchemies, attacking humans/shinobi/exp-players is something to do.


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