I was Autumn Willow #10.

I started pretty slow and several trolls were bigger than me after OOP waves. Realm 1 probably had best trolls in the first two weeks and their elementals were very strong, so we knew that they will be the biggest competition for us. Realm 14, 15 and 16 also seemed to be strong, but we were watching realm 1 most of the time.

My strategy went well, however I was a bit behind in lands. I was able to climb in the rankings and my power was bigger and bigger. We changed few hits with r1 and r16 but then Funambulist got conquested by The Warner Siblings in r14 and runaway. Then the animator sacced all his op and started to explore. We knew that he will explore to some 4700 lands and no one will be able outgrow him.

I made some calculation and realized that I will be able to hit him all in in a week, but the window when I will be able to hit him will be very small, only some 12-24 ticks, because his iron income was stable but my gold income was decreasing through time. We warred him then and I hit him for some 350 lands. I knew that it wont be enough, but we believed that we might get win for MisterBarca if we are a bit lucky.

As you all could have seen, the end of the round was full of action, but it hasnt changed anything in the end, so the victory remains for r14.

It was pretty interesting round, much better than the last round with overpowered halflings.

Hi all,

I was CRVO and later We love Nadal.

Regarding the deletion, well, tbh I don't actually know what happened. All I know is, I very stupidly used the same username and password for the game AND gc. Basically what happened was that during those 10-15 minutes, I tried to sign in to both game and gc; failed.

Then I noticed I'd received an email saying my kingdom had died. :S So later, when everyone else was able to sign in, I was told that I deleted. Asked Zip about it, he said someone had access, and someone deleted. I obviously didn't, not sure if you'd believe me on this. There was absolutely no reason for me to delete at that point; I was done relic whoring, had put all my heroes in and built spires.

So, I can only conclude that my account was hacked during that time and someone deleted it.

We are #16.

But your faith is well appreciated.

What 15 did was irrelevant. I was just going to hit the DD(not even sui, his military was tiny) when i saw he got hit, it made us hold up for a few minutes(as we were afriad it would have been the troll) and in that time the troll got him.

Our ani could have hit the #1 troll but unfortunately the man had to work and couldnt login before the attack was disabled.

There was no way we would have let the DD in #10 get away with it as we had 3 guys with 400-450K OP(about 150k oversends to hit the DD who anyone and their mother could hit). So don't come with the:
"sorry for stealing the win from you barca"

From my point of view from the entire end round(as soon as the ele in 15 had sent)
it was between us and #16 when realm 10 decided to kingmake realm 1s troll.
even the hit from realm 10s troll on our ani was a complete joke since 10 already then had no guys who could win unless attack would get disabled the min after he sent.
We hadn't even considered R10 as contenders for the win and neither should they have


oh and about the Dust you were missing Dante. Its all from us sorry, so please check your news before you throw names around and if you check out our guys we still got lots of dust left to burn if you want some more. 15 doesnt even seem to have the resources to do any damage to you at all but who knows.


Why #15 would FB you i have no idea but i sincerly doubt they are? their ele played a solid round though and was just a few acres off, if he got the hit in on the shin before 16, he would have won.

Sorry for getting pissed but really grow up. Your accusations are fucking idiotic, it was a good and close round with a finish that sure will leave a foul taste in many rounds to come.

I know I have been in the realm to win enough times to not cry rivers if it doesn't go my way in the end. This time it did, usually it doesn't, im sure its the same way for you guys. Life goes on.

No idea where your ceek and co are Dante, but as far as I know he's not with me:)

Agree with Strikers assessment. In the end it was between us and 14 for a long time.

(FUN FACT!!! Early round, we had planned to warcq r10 (the late ooping dd and 1 of the vamps) but r14s fbs on Funabulist killed 3k op, which forced us to in fact, hit r14 instead. We didn't even plan to touch Fervor unless there was a target emergency. This was because we didn't at the time identify r14 as threats (shame on us!))

Good round by the anims. r15 ele made us laugh a lot by his whiny pms about taking what was actually a very low amount of fbs compared to what others took from us. ^^,
Learn that flaming and whining in pms do not ever make you take less fbs.

Oh and his "you have no one in your realm who can win comment was priceless." Decent round but your threat assessment capabilities are horrible my friend.

Mm, we've been keeping the "we're #14" up to avoid some attention.

So we were #16, pretty bad and non-communicative round from us. Shit started going downhill basically from oop onwards (especially #14's FBs on me when I was stacking to hit #10 were disastrous), and didn't get much better.

Correction though: we shouldn't have sui retalled the anim's hit on me (I was funambulist), because we would've had zero chance after that, while we knew we could still get 2 kingdoms to a win position by not retalling. My feed on him was a silly mistake due to tiredness, we didn't notice #14's war on us is ending before Deus ex would get his tavs in for a legitimate retal. Also, they abrased at the perfect time when I wasn't on (I counted some 40 tries in news, that's a lot of dust, hehe).

#15 bopped us too during that hc race btw. But, as said, it wouldn't have made a difference, #14 had enough dust reserves to keep anyone from hc'ing.

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Not to discredit you Dante, sorry, you really did the best that cuold be done considering the circumstances. You were very close to win and its possible actions outside our realm prevented you from being able to HC even if i think with our 4 animators imba dust production we could have done it ourselves but perhaps not.

All i know is that i didnt even talk to anyone on msn outside my realm during the round, and im pretty sure the rest of the pack are the same. so the accusations kinda pissed me off, hope you understand(except for saying hello to ppopcorn and knicoal once, but not sure they are even playing the round).

Was a good close round well played.

I really dont like your language as well as the language of some of your packies. It is maybe the reason why I will never have respect to some players. It is so hard to make post without using foul language?

And we have seen many close wins with the last time hit, so I see no reason why DD in r10 couldnt have won this round.

Hey, the Striker. First of all, to clear up the confusion, I think you had the entire Elveron fooled that you were Sven/Ceek's pack (and that #16 was you).

Anyways, three points (aside from some strange goings on--including Applet's deletion--that may or may not be related to your realm):

1. Yes, I realize that I was weak after I made some horrid mistakes with building mid-way through the round, partly because this is the first round I played DD.

But Elveron rounds are not always won by the strongest kingdom now--is it? I would say about a quarter of rounds I've participated in were won by weak(er) kingdoms that got lucky with attack disabled. And some of those kingdoms were really weak (like B's Vampire win, when he was arguably not even among the top 10 strongest kingdoms).

Would you characterize all those wins as illegitimate, too?

2. I am not so angry that I did not win; I knew Dante was going to hit me, and I would have been fine with that had he won via that route.

The problem is that a kingdom/realm that had no chance to win chose to interfere and king-make. And I was similarly critical of Assassin suiciding Dante 2 rounds ago in a similar situation when Dante was weak and likely going to get hit anyways, so there's no hypocrisy or personal bias here. I've always consistently believed that one should not interfere or rank-whore when one has no chance to win.

And I believe that most of the top players believe so as well.

3. Finally, when Dante said I deserved to win, I think he is more referring to past rounds where I had much stronger kingdoms than this one, including two where we packed together. I do not think he meant I deserved to win this round, and I well concede I did not.

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Our pack's Royal Family Message every round now:

"Please don't hit active guys with huge OP--even if they leave land DP!!!"

Yeah, you should know, you're an expert of those. ;)

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Right, that is why I said that.

As far as i see only one in the pack that posted so far here is me:) So can't tell you what they said to you outside the forums, didnt even know they used msn that much but ok:)

I do apologize for the tone, I agree it was out of place. But if you look at Barca's post(i'm assuming the DD), aswell as Dante's first post. They are clearly accusing us for cheating which by all rights, is infuriating me.

While i think the DDs last attack now, that i've calmed down a bit, was fine. I mean it was your only shot to win so sure take it. But you really can't have expected to win with the kind of defense he left:)

I packed with you and kerwil a few times, and really had a good time. Sorry you don't feel the same way.

Sure you guys in #14 and #16 had the best chances. But if #16 (a lot) and #15 (one crucial tick) hadnt gone after me i would have had more chances. It was very much not "all from you". And saying you had enough dust reserve when it was a matter of seconds (well, 20 seconds or so) that made me loose out seems a bit steep. If i had been home on my regular connection i would have easily HCd in 10 secs and won after i stole those 12k dust or something to give me some margin.

And no Striker, i didnt mean you did anything wrong, you guys were winning after all - i mean #15 and #16 did something wrong. When they had no chance of winning anymore they should have stayed out of it imo. I know for sure that Ceeks pack usually pride themselves of not wanting to kingmake, but i guess they thought they had a shot longer than we did? Like you guys we had some pretty nice dust reserves, and i dont think Deus ever could have had a chance to reach a HC tbh.

Though now i see what Ceek was referring to, hence they tried to help you since they felt i wouldnt have deserved the win.

Either way, obviously a win for me would have been a stroke of luck in this instance anyway since i was by far the weakest of 6 possible winners the last day. Well done striker and others in #14 for rapping it up to a win!

A bit off, there was a few dust farms and stuff, if people gave up bopping him thinking he has no shot to hc anymore (and especially if #12 didn't take the hat for whatever reason they had), it would've been doable.

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But ceek, WHY ON EARTH would my pack give up bopping him when i had to stop him in order to have a chance at winning?

That's just ridiculuos.