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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 07:21 
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IMmoR wrote:
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I like this too!
Interesting with a diamond based race. And the tornado spell! But shouldnt it be war-only?


I prefer the spell stay non-war spell with MD cost of 10-15x landsize. Anyway, we still can make it as war spell with cheaper MD cost. :)



No, no! Please keep it as a non-war spell. War-only spells are bs, I even think that all the current ones should be demoted to non-war. Let's phase-out the war-only crap in new races! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 07:37 
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MisterBarca wrote:
A real stupid question: How much is a Diamond worth in gold terms?

I ask because I am trying to compare the race I created with Frostzorbs: They share some similar stats, but I have a hard time grasping how much such Diamond-heavy units are worth in gold-terms. Also, how much is an Iron Ore worth in gold terms while we are at it?

Thanks in advance.


Conversion of Gold to other resources

Gold Mine as reference.

1 Gold to 1.92 Lumber
1 Gold to 1.83 Iron
1 Gold to 1.67 Food

1 Magic Dust to 1.2 golds
1 Dms to 6 golds
1 Runes to 20000 golds (imps as reference)

Anyway, the conversion above is just a draft reference, conversion price will change around due to any resource bonus or the chance to get the resources.

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Add suggestion of Magic Dust cost needed for Tornado (12x) and Rainfall (1x)

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he is getting out of class to go to the "washroom" lol
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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 15:30 
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Who will pay 12000md at a chance to destroy 10 buildings? I guess mage whores would. In that case, it should be hard to hard to successfully cast it, like "kill workers in training" (which is HARD to succeed at!).

I love this race =)

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 15:58 
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quaffle wrote:
Who will pay 12000md at a chance to destroy 10 buildings? I guess mage whores would. In that case, it should be hard to hard to successfully cast it, like "kill workers in training" (which is HARD to succeed at!).

I love this race =)


:). You are right, "Tornado" spell is created for Mage whore, not for land attacker. :) I hope the effect of this spell wont be scaled down due to landsize difference between target and caster , if yes, the magic dust cost of spell should be reduced then.

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he is getting out of class to go to the "washroom" lol
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ah, ok, "stomachache"
080 says:
aha ya
Immor says:
tell Lordrahl be careful and dont drop his iphone into the toilet bowl
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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 15:59 
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I've already told Immor privately when he asked me via MSN, but for the record: I really like this race, too.

Again, any race that encourages people to attack and discourage them from sitting on their asses is a good thing.

And as I told Immor, the only thing that initially worried me was the fact that it's difficult to get a handle on the unit prices, because it does not use gold as primary income.

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 01:46 
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MisterBarca wrote:
Again, any race that encourages people to attack and discourage them from sitting on their asses is a good thing.

MBarca, if you want to make a race an attacking race, make their defense inefficient. That forces them to make short sits. This race has a 10 point defender, which means they can make long sits. They dont need to mass defense to keep up with top op. Aka - it doesnt hurt their economy too much to train defense. Thats what makes Dwarf a "fast race," because it must gain a land advantage to house its defense. Then it must continue to have that lead. Look at Sylvan, Shinobi, Flameweaver. All have efficient defense, all have strong "slow play" strategies.

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 02:24 
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quaffle wrote:
MisterBarca wrote:
Again, any race that encourages people to attack and discourage them from sitting on their asses is a good thing.

MBarca, if you want to make a race an attacking race, make their defense inefficient. That forces them to make short sits. This race has a 10 point defender, which means they can make long sits. They dont need to mass defense to keep up with top op. Aka - it doesnt hurt their economy too much to train defense. Thats what makes Dwarf a "fast race," because it must gain a land advantage to house its defense. Then it must continue to have that lead. Look at Sylvan, Shinobi, Flameweaver. All have efficient defense, all have strong "slow play" strategies.


I said I wanted to encourage attacking, not force players to play like XP players :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 03:27 
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Yes! Inefficient defense is bad for XPers also =)

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 13:57 
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MisterBarca wrote:
I've already told Immor privately when he asked me via MSN, but for the record: I really like this race, too.

Again, any race that encourages people to attack and discourage them from sitting on their asses is a good thing.

And as I told Immor, the only thing that initially worried me was the fact that it's difficult to get a handle on the unit prices, because it does not use gold as primary income.


Kudos to this race suggestion! Really, the motivation to attack is something new and really inspiring stuff. Nice to see that quite a lot of new players to the game come with fresh and original ideas as well. I would agree with wilan that the names of the units can be modified a bit though. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 04:56 
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+1 to the offensive focus. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 14:36 
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clwk07 wrote:
+1 to the offensive focus. :)


Hey, my race encourages you to attack, too! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 16:22 
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Self Promoter!

This race has much less going on and works as a whole.

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 17:26 
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quaffle wrote:
Self Promoter!

This race has much less going on and works as a whole.


I may be a self-promoter, but you, sir, are a publicity whore :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 19:21 
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False, I do not post to get attention. I post because I want to. Also, I think you are nearing as many, if not a little less posts/day than me!

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 Post subject: Re: Oriental Dragon
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 05:59 
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I just looked at this race and it looks well balanced.

Great concept to see an all diamond race.

As of right now this race has the best concept and most balanced I seen on these boards and I would vote for it.

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